Episode 36: Measuring Talent Intangibles

 
 

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How do you measure what you can’t easily see?

For L&D and talent development pros, measuring improvement in skills like leadership, collaboration, and communication is a constant challenge. It isn't as easy as measuring technical outputs like sales numbers, quality scores, or production time. We often find ourselves wondering where to begin and how to proceed. In this episode, Jess and Colin J. Hahn explore why this problem keeps resurfacing followed by three highly practical ways to measure these intangibles. From operational definitions to breaking big questions into estimable parts and observing corresponding behavior, they share tools and stories to help you bring the unseen into focus, creating the clarity needed to show business impact.

 Jess and Colin Discuss

  • Why measuring intangibles is a constant challenge for L&D/TD

  • Using operational definitions to give context and clarity

  • Breaking intangible skills into estimable parts

  • Applying order-of-magnitude thinking to speed decision-making

  • Watching for outcomes that signal intangible strengths

  • A manufacturing case linking leader behavior to retention and productivity

  • A simple first step to tackle your next measurement challenge

 About Colin J. Hahn 

Colin J. Hahn, Ph.D., CPTD is an experienced Organizational Development leader who specializes in improving performance through data-driven talent development. In his 15 years of talent development experience, he has led programs that have generated more than $2M in annual impact and improved performance in over 95% of participants. At FranklinCovey, he coaches global clients to align learning strategies to business goals and use data to show the operational impact of their work.
 

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Episode 35: Conducting Tiny Experiments in L&D